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[mrkromer]

Dude, you're playing in $1 tournaments, what do you expect? Of course it's going to the river every hand, and that's when you see bad beats, plain and simple. You move up in stakes, very seldom do you even see a flop.

mike

[bad_dog76]

You think stakes matter? LOL! Watch a couple of vidoes by Tuff_Fish. A guy that played at 10-20NL tables on Party Poker. Watch him check raise people $300-$400 only to see them suck out on the river.

The stakes shouldn't matter. The odds and probabilty of EVERY hand include going to the river.

$1 or $1000 AA should hold up against AK 87% of the time. KK should beat JJ 80% of the time and so on, and so forth.

I've played higher levels, same bullshit happens up there, I've watched higher levels than I can afford to play (like 600NL) and see the SAME THING!

All higher stakes mean is that people can afford to play at those levels, doesn't have anything to do with their poker skill.

[bad_dog76]

Sure online poker is so fair, Here we go again. Top 3 place I'm 4th in chips 6 people left. Here's this hand. And I PLAY IT PERFECTLY AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!


***** Hand history (v1.2) *****
Hand ID 139158525
$2 + $0.20 Texas Hold'em (No Limit) - 13:53:48 01/07/2008 ET
Table 'Table 1324801', 10 seats max, Real money
Seat 2 is the button. Small Blind $100, Big Blind $200
Note: seat IDs range from 1 to 10
Seat 1 (playing) : BillyRoy, amount $7031, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 2 (playing) : bar10der, amount $8758, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 3 (playing) : milehiman, amount $2915, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 8 (playing) : Philly_Mike, amount $5363, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 9 (playing) : RigWPXmyway, amount $3667, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 10 (playing) : Bean100, amount $6766, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
milehiman: Small Blind ($100)
Philly_Mike: Big Blind ($200)
** Dealing Down Cards **
Dealt to RigWPXmyway: [Ah, Qs]
RigWPXmyway: Call ($200)
Bean100: Fold
BillyRoy: Call ($200)
bar10der: Call ($200)
milehiman: Call ($100)
Philly_Mike: Check ($0)
** Dealing Flop **
Community cards: [2s, 3s, Qd]
milehiman: Bet ($200)
Philly_Mike: Fold
RigWPXmyway: Raise ($800)
BillyRoy: Call ($800)
bar10der: Fold
milehiman: Fold
** Dealing Turn **
Community cards: [9d]
RigWPXmyway: Bet ($2642)
BillyRoy: Call ($2642)
BillyRoy: Show Cards ($0)
RigWPXmyway: Show Cards ($0)
** Dealing River **
Community cards: [Kd]
** End Round **
** Evaluate **
RigWPXmyway: Show Cards ($0)
BillyRoy: Show Cards ($0)
** Showdown **
Main pot $8234, Rake $0
Summary BillyRoy: bet $3642, won $8234, net $4592, HoleCards [Qc, Kc], HiHand [two pairs, kings and queens] [Kd, Kc, Qd, Qc, 9d], won $8234 from main pot
Summary RigWPXmyway: bet $3642, won $0, net $-3642

Sure, REALLY FUCKING FAIR! 7% on the river, of course he'd hit his 3 outer against me. Once again, just showing how many mother fucking times I go in with the best hand, only to lose to a FUCKING MIRACLE!

[bad_dog76]

Here's another one, granted this is a freeroll tournament but here's ANOTHER FUCKING EXAMPLE OF HOW AN INCREDIBLY HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE FAVORITE LOSES ON THE RIVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

***** Hand history (v1.2) *****
Hand ID 139158814
$0 + $0 Texas Hold'em (No Limit) - 14:02:00 01/07/2008 ET
Table 'Table 1324859', 10 seats max, Real money
Seat 8 is the button. Small Blind $10, Big Blind $20
Note: seat IDs range from 1 to 10
Seat 1 (playing) : itsascam, amount $1500, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 2 (playing) : paulwilson_68, amount $1500, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 3 (playing) : HeartsJack, amount $1500, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 4 (playing) : lucassoulet, amount $1500, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 5 (playing) : v_arnold, amount $1500, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 6 (playing) : RigWPXmyway, amount $1500, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 7 (playing) : seminol, amount $1500, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 8 (playing) : shazzer_ok, amount $1500, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 9 (playing) : iualex, amount $1500, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
iualex: Small Blind ($10)
itsascam: Big Blind ($20)
** Dealing Down Cards **
Dealt to RigWPXmyway: [8d, 6d]
paulwilson_68: Fold
HeartsJack: Fold
lucassoulet: Call ($20)
v_arnold: Fold
RigWPXmyway: Call ($20)
seminol: Fold
shazzer_ok: Fold
iualex: Call ($10)
itsascam: Check ($0)
** Dealing Flop **
Community cards: [7h, Tc, 4h]
iualex: Bet ($20)
itsascam: Fold
lucassoulet: Call ($20)
RigWPXmyway: Call ($20)
** Dealing Turn **
Community cards: [9c]
iualex: Bet ($20)
lucassoulet: Call ($20)
RigWPXmyway: Raise ($300)
iualex: Fold
lucassoulet: Call ($280)
** Dealing River **
Community cards: [2c]
lucassoulet: Check ($0)
RigWPXmyway: Bet ($500)
lucassoulet: Raise ($1160)
RigWPXmyway: Call ($660)
** End Round **
** Evaluate **
lucassoulet: Show Cards ($0)
RigWPXmyway: Show Cards ($0)
** Showdown **
Main pot $3080, Rake $0
Summary lucassoulet: bet $1500, won $3080, net $1580, HoleCards [Kc, 7c], HiHand [a flush, king high] [Kc, Tc, 9c, 7c, 2c], won $3080 from main pot
Summary RigWPXmyway: bet $1500, won $0, net $-1500

Of course the asshole would hit the flush, At least that time I was only 81% to win instead of 93%

Have you ever seen anyone so "unlucky" in your life?
By the way, that was the 1st hand in the next tournament after my bad beat in the last one

[mrkromer]

Originally Posted by bad_dog76

Here's another one, granted this is a freeroll tournament but here's ANOTHER FUCKING EXAMPLE OF HOW AN INCREDIBLY HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE FAVORITE LOSES ON THE RIVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

***** Hand history (v1.2) *****
Hand ID 139158814
$0 + $0 Texas Hold'em (No Limit) - 14:02:00 01/07/2008 ET
Table 'Table 1324859', 10 seats max, Real money
Seat 8 is the button. Small Blind $10, Big Blind $20
Note: seat IDs range from 1 to 10
Seat 1 (playing) : itsascam, amount $1500, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 2 (playing) : paulwilson_68, amount $1500, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 3 (playing) : HeartsJack, amount $1500, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 4 (playing) : lucassoulet, amount $1500, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 5 (playing) : v_arnold, amount $1500, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 6 (playing) : RigWPXmyway, amount $1500, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 7 (playing) : seminol, amount $1500, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 8 (playing) : shazzer_ok, amount $1500, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 9 (playing) : iualex, amount $1500, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
iualex: Small Blind ($10)
itsascam: Big Blind ($20)
** Dealing Down Cards **
Dealt to RigWPXmyway: [8d, 6d]
paulwilson_68: Fold
HeartsJack: Fold
lucassoulet: Call ($20)
v_arnold: Fold
RigWPXmyway: Call ($20)
seminol: Fold
shazzer_ok: Fold
iualex: Call ($10)
itsascam: Check ($0)
** Dealing Flop **
Community cards: [7h, Tc, 4h]
iualex: Bet ($20)
itsascam: Fold
lucassoulet: Call ($20)
RigWPXmyway: Call ($20)
** Dealing Turn **
Community cards: [9c]
iualex: Bet ($20)
lucassoulet: Call ($20)
RigWPXmyway: Raise ($300)
iualex: Fold
lucassoulet: Call ($280)
** Dealing River **
Community cards: [2c]
lucassoulet: Check ($0)
RigWPXmyway: Bet ($500)
lucassoulet: Raise ($1160)
RigWPXmyway: Call ($660)
** End Round **
** Evaluate **
lucassoulet: Show Cards ($0)
RigWPXmyway: Show Cards ($0)
** Showdown **
Main pot $3080, Rake $0
Summary lucassoulet: bet $1500, won $3080, net $1580, HoleCards [Kc, 7c], HiHand [a flush, king high] [Kc, Tc, 9c, 7c, 2c], won $3080 from main pot
Summary RigWPXmyway: bet $1500, won $0, net $-1500

Of course the asshole would hit the flush, At least that time I was only 81% to win instead of 93%

Have you ever seen anyone so "unlucky" in your life?
By the way, that was the 1st hand in the next tournament after my bad beat in the last one

Another one, K7 held up against 68, wow. Amazing how you all say it's rigged and the worst hand wins but every example you give shows the best hand holding up. Are you all on drugs?!?!

mike

[mrkromer]

Originally Posted by bad_dog76

You think stakes matter? LOL! Watch a couple of vidoes by Tuff_Fish. A guy that played at 10-20NL tables on Party Poker. Watch him check raise people $300-$400 only to see them suck out on the river.

The stakes shouldn't matter. The odds and probabilty of EVERY hand include going to the river.

$1 or $1000 AA should hold up against AK 87% of the time. KK should beat JJ 80% of the time and so on, and so forth.

I've played higher levels, same bullshit happens up there, I've watched higher levels than I can afford to play (like 600NL) and see the SAME THING!

All higher stakes mean is that people can afford to play at those levels, doesn't have anything to do with their poker skill.

You're way off on your assumptions. First, if you watch players at higher stakes play (5/10, 10/20, whatever) dozens of hands go by with no flop because of preflop raising! So you're way off there.

Second, one person showing some examples of getting sucked out on at higher levels tells nothing! Sure, you have bad players at all levels, I agree with you there, but I promise you if you quit playing micro stakes and develop a strong game plan, which I don't think you have, success will follow, OVER TIME, not the first night or two.

Third, the odds and probability of every hand change after the flop, after the turn, and after the river, so your first statement doesn't make much sense. Yeah AA has AK dominated preflop, but that can change drastically after community cards hit.

mike