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You people are very sad. Party poker isn't rigged. I don't need to offer any reasoning why becuase none of you will listen. If it's rigged, surely someone somewhere would be able to bring the entire company down. That is my challenge to you. Expose Party Poker with cold hard evidence and bring them to their knees.

Well, here's a simple test!Go to PARTYPOKER.COM.Play 100 hands on the play money tables.Record the results of each hand. Let us know what your Hole cards were and what your opponents hole cards were and what the odds were for each of you pre-flop, after the flop, after the turn and then after the river.Then put a star beside each bad beat and each "Miracle Card"!Also, of particular interest, put 2 BIG STARS next to each hand in which it would make sense to go all in but you loose any way!!See how many STARS you come up with and on how many hand the odds are "ROUTINELY" defied!How many stars should you have in 100 hands?How many bad beats should some one suffer or how many miracle cards should some one get?It would probably take less than 3 hours to play 100 hands on PARTYPOKER.COM on the play money tables...I've been there. I've seen it with my own two eyes.If some one wants to find out for themselves,Go there and play!IT WILL BE PERFECTLY OBVIOUS! CRYSTAL CLEAR!IT WILL SMELL LIKE YOU'RE WALKING THROUGH A FISH MARKET ON A HOT SUMMER DAY!

Here are some typical scenerios on pp, that happen on a consistant basis** Dealing down cards ** I am aaaaa and raise the ante, with AA only 1 player stays in.Dealt to aaaaa [ Ad As ]aaaaa raises [$4].bbbbb calls [$4].** Dealing Flop ** [ 4d, Td, Qd ]aaaaa bets [$2].bbbbb calls [$2].** Dealing Turn ** [ Js ]aaaaa bets [$4].bbbbb calls [$4].** Dealing River ** [ Ah ]aaaaa bets [$4].bbbbb raises [$8].aaaaa is all-In [$1.5]bbbbb shows [ Kh, Th ] a straight, ten to ace.aaaaa doesn't show [ Ad, As ] three of a kind, aces.I had the same thing happen with a set of 8's on the flop, and another player had pp j's, the turn and river gave them a str using the jjVarious other times I had top 2 pair and reraised the better to be raised back, he had a pair of 4's I had k's and 9', the river is anA and he ends up with A/4'sThese scenerios hapen over and over, you can say bad luck, yes, I agree,but on PP this is what happens 1000 times over, if you hit a set or top 2 pair, or a str or flush on the flop, you might as well fold because the river card will beat it. They should be closed down.

This is only a test!Try this on the PARTYPOKER.COM's play money tables:Only play strong starting hands!Fold everytime you have a marginal or weak hand ONLY play:*Pocket pairs that are 7 or higher (Or pocket 9's or 10's on up depending on your starting hand strength criterea).*A,9 through A,K.*K,10 through K,Q.*Q,10 and Q,J's.J,10's just out of curiosity!Each time you get one of these hands, simply go all in!Someone will more than likely call you with "Non-playable hands" such as 8,4 or J,2 etc. You'll be amazed at how many times people will call you pre-flop all in with hands like these and flat out bust you when they manage to flop or draw 2 pair, 3 of a kind or get lucky enough to somehow get a straight, a flush or even a boat! It seems like whenever you go all in, even with a legitimate starting hand, you are actually commiting suicide most of the time! See for youeself if you don't believe. (DON'T BELIEVE ME OR PEOPLE LIKE "YOU PEOPLE ARE SAD". SEE FOR YOURSELF CAUSE SEEING IS BELIEVING!)Again here's a better idea: Go all in PREFLOP for one hundred hands with the hands mentioned above! Record the results. Post them here please. Please let us know what your starting hands were, what the community cards were and what the hole cards were of the callers and of course what your odds to win the hands were preflop. It would be nice if several people did this and posted the results here! Good Luck!

i have played poker for 40 years quite successfully in brick and mortar and home games i started playing at pp 15/30 held my own then lost 4k after cash out same results as i see stated here. i quit for a bit and decided i would play 3/6 had success and won 1500 took a shot in 15/30 again and won 3k entered 30 tourney placed 3rd win 1900 cashed out 4k and then i got more aa kk qq beat over the next 4 days then you could ever imagine and i played 8 to 10 hours a day everyday the only one i recoginize posting is eagle scout whom i have played with and i will say is a excellent player and i believe he has been successful he is one of the few people i see left over the past 1 year the point is BE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT PLAYING ONLINE I HONESTLY BELIEVE YOUR NOT GETTING THE BEST OF IT THERE ARE WAY TO MANY WAYS TO CHEAT DONT MAKE A COSTLY MISTAKE LOL PAUL

I've never claimed to be an expert at poker or a killer player, else I'd be playing more casinos and makeing rounds at WSOP. However, I do well for myself at the end of my week. When I first started online it was Paridise and Stars. I didn't care for the layout so I didn't stick around for more than a few months. I've been at Party for a little over three weeks and have been doing terrible. Now I admit, at first I could only throw my hands in the air and entertain some paranoid idea about forced hands for the house rake. I was seeing more boats, flushes and straights in one night than I saw all week. And watching some of these catches on the river really made me raise an eyebrow. But, I just told myself that the ego talking from too many bad beats. It happens. It's natural to remember more of your bad beats than your best take downs. And of course you see almost ten times as many hands online than you will at land based games per hour. Even takeing all this into consideration I'm at my wits end here. I play for an hourly rate an my home games and a weekly rate at the casinos. Depending on the stakes, my ratio stays pretty consistant. Not online. Whether I have it or not, I have to shake my head in disgust at seeing the same thing over and over. You've all seen it. The things that are caught on the river, the constant flush wars that are always one overcard higher than the other and two pair against trips. Now, again, you see more hands online bc the game is much faster, but the ratio in the real world just doesn't work out like this. You can get "cold hands" or go on tilt just as easily. But, doesn't it strike you as odd to hit a slump everytime you cash out here? Now don't call me paraniod or a sore loser just yet. When you go to enough casino's, you find the fixed tables and the shady pit lords. It happens to all of us when we start out as fish. They can do it bc there's always more fish out there. It's the rake that bothers me about this site and the others. That's where the money is generated. Remember that. Now think back to the ratio of made hands that go up against each other. That rake goes up higher and faster the bigger the pot is. Now maybe you're doing well. I'm not dead here, but I'm not makeing any money. Nothing signifigant at least. It's always up and down. And no offense, but the hand selection I see makes me cringe. But then I noticed something. Nobody was makeing any real money. Aside from the tournaments, at every table the money was just being passed around from player to player. The only real winner I saw was, you guessed it, the dealer and his rake. Now out of, let's just say 30 catagories there are about 100 table in each. Each table pulls a minimum of $1 a minute for the rake. That's 3000 tables. All makeing a dollar a minute. You do that math. I'm not trying to spread propaganda here. Just this, if you want to play online, don't play anything less than the 5/10 table or stick to the tournaments. All you have to do is watch a table for half an hour to notice. It's uncanny to see the difference in the winning hands from the 2/4 table to the 15/30. -end-

i agree that it certainly is not in pp best interest in do anything wrong and i am sure that they do all they can to prevent any kind of wrong doing the golden goose is at stake but this is the justification i think everyone has that wants to play i myself moved down from 15/30 to 3/6 thinking it was less advantagious for collusion but it is also no good for a full time player because of the rake the time put opposed to your profitability is very small the tournaments 30 and up seem your best option because a multipel team of entrants would have to last long enought to get to the same table to do damage. which is possible but harder to do. their security has to be just as vigilant about their own people as much as the general public because it is a fact that most stealing in retail and the corporate world comes from a few bad employees. REMEMBER WHAT MAN CAN PUT TOGETHER MAN CAN TAKE APART. THIS COULD BE A 60 MINUTES SHOW WAITING TO HAPPEN