POKER INFO - PROILE - Stu Ungar

Stu was a wizard at cards but the drugs did get him,if i can be like 10% of the skill that stu did have will be a happy man, RIP stu and we will allways remeber you.

just curious about when i can expect the book on him to be realeased?

STOP WITH THIS BLAPHAMIS POKER god BULLSHIT PLEASEEEE!!! He was a great player a great gin and hold em player who counted cards like a genius, but his weakness for drugs overcame it all and so did his love for sports betting he is far from a god in any respect. Johnny Moss also had 3 wins no one mentions him nor is he even listed on this site, truely sad becuase I'm sure he could have beaten Stu heads up anyday and would have placed better at a tourney too.

Just to give you some info. Johnny Moss and my dad used to play against each other regularly before he passed and my dad has beat him plenty times. That's already a known fact by those who have been in the poker seen long before all this televised poker started. For those of you who don't know... the very first WSOP decided the winner by a show of hands of who they thought played best overall. Alot of professional poker players whom I grew up with don't really consider that an ACTUAL win.

To give you some info, I've been following poker since before all this craze myself. I'm 23 and have been playing since I was in the 4th grade. I'm sure Moss lost more than jsut a few hands in his life, and to more people than just your dad, if they ever really played. Poker isn't a game where the best player wins ALL the time in fact no player no matter how good can ever win all the time. I'm sure you know this since you've been around the game so long. As far as the first WSOP though it diodn't have the numbers of today nor the format, I feel it showed who was the best player not because he beat out a field of 2000 plus players and got really lucky a lot of times, like MM but rather played solidly and well this I think shows who is the better player. Brunson, Lederer, Hellmuth, and Chan are all much better than any champion since 1990 until today but the main event wins won't show that. Bottom line I stick to what I said, Moss was better than Ungar.

Wait I just scrolled up and saw that you say you're Ungar's daughter, I have no reason to disbelieve you and I'm going to take your word for it. So forget the last part completely. What I would like to say is that I wish Moss had written a book and that I think had your dad written one it would have been useless because his game was one that couldn't be taught. Moss was a player with experiance, where your dad was naturally a great card counter and had an almost mystical ability to read people. His gin hold em stud and even black jack game were ledgendary, I recently read about a black jack game where he called off the remaining cards left in the shoe when accused of cheating. Your father was a great player who's talent was really God given but it makes me angry how people say he was a "god" and how Moss isn't even on this site.

Everyone is intitled to their own opinion. I am not going to sit here and try to sell my dad to you. If you think Moss was better then my dad then so-be-it. I know Moss was a great player but better then my dad I don't think so! And there are alot of players who will back me up on this. I am sure of it!! I have taped interviews from people who are looked up upon in the poker world that will be featured in my dad's upcomming book who witnessed thousands of games played between my dad and others including Moss and admit they never saw someone play the way my dad did. They said when his head was on straight he played with perfection. You can let the record speak for itself. No player has ever won a Superbowl of Poker AND a World Series of Poker tournament one time each but in Stu Ungar's case he won each one of those tournaments 3 times each. But I do agree with you on something Sammy the Brick, I don't like when my dad it looked up upon as a god either. There is only one God Almighty and my dad was not him but He sure was blessed with a God given talent. Take care.