Hellmuth quote

[Curmudgeon]

How about this reply to "Mr. Personality":

"We must believe in luck. For how else can we explain the success of those we don't like?"

Jean Cocteau

Cheers: Curmudgeon

Although he is a dick, he is a very good player. He would not win every time, but he would do quite well.

That's actually ironic. I saw him outdraw an opponent on an all in to win the other day on the travel channel.

If there was no luck involved....Phil Hellmuth might not win everytime...but he'd win most of the time. The guy is an arrogant prick...however, I think that his arrogance is what makes him great. Second place is not good enough for him...he holds himself to the highest standards at all times. If you read this and you follow poker...I mean REALLY follow poker...not just ESPN, then you will know that NOBODY and I mean NOBODY gets sucked out on as much as Hellmuth. he could easily have 13-15 bracelets by now if it weren't for luck.

Originally Posted by Chad

That's actually ironic. I saw him outdraw an opponent on an all in to win the other day on the travel channel.

That is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard...that's like saying, if it wasn't for the hoop being 10 feet high, everyone would dunk a basketball. I could sit around for AA all day, and say, no one should beat me...You my friend are a moron

Well....you obviously are not a real poker player...and judging from your piss poor analogy aren't very smart. Your basketball comparison makes no sense at all..My point is that I have seen Helmuth get his money in with monster hands and trap his opponent just like you're supposed to and his opponent catch runner runner or 1 and 2 outers to beat him. What further lets me know that you have no clue what you're talking about is your "waiting for aces theory". Real players know that Hellmuth doesn't even play in cash games...he plays tournaments only....If you had ever played in a real tournament before which I doubt...you would know that the blind structure for tournaments doesn't allow you to just sit around and wait for hands. Do yourself a favor and go learn the game.

[CAPPARELLA]

Bravo, Bravo....but i bet if football fields were only 10 yards long everyone would score a touchdown...

[SHAMUS TDT]

I wish I was a "real poker player" like suitedace...i think with guys like him around trying to show off how awesome and insightful he is I'll switch to yahtzee. On second though I'll just continue rake'in pots off of people who think they are special.

[Mustang]

Originally Posted by Suited Ace

If there was no luck involved....Phil Hellmuth might not win everytime...but he'd win most of the time. The guy is an arrogant prick...however, I think that his arrogance is what makes him great. Second place is not good enough for him...he holds himself to the highest standards at all times. If you read this and you follow poker...I mean REALLY follow poker...not just ESPN, then you will know that NOBODY and I mean NOBODY gets sucked out on as much as Hellmuth. he could easily have 13-15 bracelets by now if it weren't for luck.

I totally agree. I've seen have such bad luck being like this close to getting another bracelet. I think by 2015 or sometime in the future, he will have amassed more bracelets than anyone ever will (all he needs is 1 more to have the most ever).

[Mustang]

Gotta say tho, there's some other good players out there that might match him on a good day. Ivey, Negreanu, Hansen, Chan, Ferguson. I've mostly been watching a lot of Poker Superstars Invitational, and some of these guys (like Mortensen, Chan, Hansen) usually have perfect reads and make the correct decision play by play.