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Old 07-21-09, 09:44 PM
buck22 buck22 is offline
 
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Just to clarify, I wasn't suggesting Whatodds would play out a hand like this in theory, but believe someone multitabling up to 9 tables could easily make this mistake and believe it was down to bad luck. If someones not getting TPTK to the river EVER, this suggests the opponents in these games are folding dominated hands on turn and river, and only calling/raising when outdrawing it, this would appear like TPTK just doesn't stand up.

SNG's are so soft that playing strong hands in position, ABC poker, beats the game sufficiently, hitting TPTK can easily stack an opponent with top pair. The play is loose and passive so AK is the nuts! However my experience with cash games, even micro, are that because the blinds are so small, most players sit and wait for big hands, as Dan Harrington put it, the tight-aggressive style is very tough to beat, even if its an amateur utilising it. SNG's are profitable in robot mode, but the cash games take a level of mixing up your game to trick your opponents. I can't remember the last time I felted a player with TPTK because in tight games, this hand either wins a small pot or loses a big pot. Personally they win some small pots until your suited-conectors or pocket pairs hit the flop hard, then taking AA,KK, and TPTK to value town, because at micro stakes players dont wait 1/2hour just to fold AK when an ace flops. I really think since considering TPTK as a small pot hand (unless check-call 3 streets or SNG), my stats have improved.

Ive just finished reading Harrington on Cash Games vol 1&2, great books, and a section really improved my game. So simple 'small hand,small pot. Big hand, big pot'. Well duh! Thats poker! But theres 2 advantages to keeping TPTK pots small, 1, opponents that outdraw you cant bet as much on the river, and 2, it can induce a bluff from a hand that wouldve folded or get your river value bet called by a weaker hand. Sorry for waffling but the point I am making is that the over-valueing of TPTK and overpairs is where most players fall, this is what I look for in my opponents.

We should start another thread on strategy, think this FullTilt one has had it.