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Old 01-21-09, 10:08 PM
eldave1 eldave1 is offline
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
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If you play live - you can definetly see that the card patterns are way out of whack with what you experience at a live table. It is not even close. The last time I played Full TIlt there was a flop of A, Q and 10 of diamonds. Four "all ins" followed.

One AQ clubs (flopped top 2 pair)
One 10 10 (flopped a set)
One k 9 of diamonds (flopped nut flush and gut shot straight flush)
One AK (flopped top pair - gut straight draw)

Turn was a Q (Full house ahead for a fleeting moment) and river was a 10 for quads.

That has never happened to me in the thousands of live games I play. (ps - I folded pocket 88 pre-flop thank God).

I know that I am not psychic - but in on-line I can call the cards turn and river half the time - I make a game out of it. If I got pocket 10 10 versus 9 9 and I flop a ten - I know that they are going to four flush. You can just shout it out. If I have AK vs A7 and the flop comes A - I know the 7 is hitting the river.

I had to stop because it was really screwing up my live play - I thought that on-line would be a great place to practice - nooooooo. When I play live and I get in with the best hand, they hold up pretty much along the odds you expect them to. In on-line, I foking tremble if I get KK, AA, AK etc because I know it is the set-up hand. I even thought of playing a tourney (haven't yet) where I jsut fold pocket pairs no matter what they are and see if that would improve my outcomes - but who wants to do that.

I am tired of the folks who say there are just more hands (because the number of hands played to not change odds - AA is AA whether you play 10 hands an hour or a hundrend and it should be an underpair 80% - on on-line it does not (I hover right around 50%). I am tired of folks who say it's because people play more bad hands - in live poker, people who play hands lose pretty soon - not in on-line - and again - the fact that someone calls with 7 2 offsuit to your Kings does not change odds). I am tired of the no incentive arguement - of course there is (rake, quicker tourneys, etc. etc.)

I am mostly tired of folks who say prove it is rigged - if I post hand histories - that is not enough data. Only Full Tilt has the complete hand histories and they refuse to have an audit done of their RNG to see if it is truly generating hand results consistent with what one would expect. Shame on them. So - the simple truth is this - No one knows if the site is rigged and the only folks who are in position to prove it is not refuse to do so. So - until there is an independent audit done - I will stay on the rigged side of the fence.