2 percent of all players come out actually ahead each year. If you go to a card room, look and see all the millionairs around you, if you saw one talk to him im sure it wasn't cards that made him that way. You guys forgot paying back the backers. That is sometimes 50 percent your winnings. The guy who said Fischmann i don't question that, he makes Dutch look like a Hack. Im sure Dutch makes his REAL money in his online ventures anyway.