You people who talk about taking Moneymaker's roll are great. Why are you taking Chris' money? Did you get sick of beating Chan, Ivey, and Hellmuth? That leads me to my opening point. First, anyone can get into this forum and create any story they want. Thus, I do not believe any of you who claim to have taken money off of Chris. Second, even if you took a few thousand off Moneymaker, do you think he cares. He has another 2 million plus dollars to play with. Not to mention winnings in the Bay 101 and other events and ring games that never get published. As for getting "lucky" in the WSOP in 2003. Of course he got lucky. Anyone who wins a major tournament like that needs to get lucky. Yes, he caught the 8 against Humberto, but what poker player hasn't caught a card to win a large pot in a ring game or tournament. Also, look at some of the bad plays that helped Moneymaker. Chan puts all his chips at risk on a draw? Boyd puts most of his stack on the line with Ace/King after a flop where he hit nothing? Those seem like pretty weak plays that Moneymaker took advantage of. Congrats to him for refusing to be bullied by pro players and people trying to buy pots. Also, recognize the ESPN factor. They are trying to build ratings. Of course they are going to show people catching cards. It is more exciting. How much fun would it be to watch KK beat QQ in an all in situation. I suspect that ESPN was trying to show how luck, skill, and a few good cards played a part in Moneymaker's victory. Additionally, over the course of a week long event like the main event at the WSOP thousands of hands are played by each of the players. Since so many hands are played good and bad beats eventually even out, as does the quality of poor and great flops that hit for each of the players, as well as their starting hands. The winner of the tournament is usually the player who makes the best plays when the luck is in his or her favor. At the 2003 WSOP main event Chris Moneymaker took advantage of great flops and great starting hands when he got them.In Phil Helmuth's book he writes that the trick is to "finish the job" and go on to win the event when you are lucky enough to win a coin flip pot. What Phil is saying is that when you get lucky take advantage. Chris Moneymaker got lucky and "finished the job." Exactly like any pro would. Thank you for reading now you can go back to playing your ring games against Moneymaker and resume taking his money. Not that any one believes you.