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Isle Of Wight Mob 01-19-04 06:00 PM

POKER INFO - PROILE - Phil Hellmuth
 
"Probably" the best..............(Come on "Barny Boatman")

Carsalesman 01-31-04 06:00 PM

Phil must have the worst econom in the world if he has problems paying his bills after winning all that money that he has.

Bubba 02-01-04 06:00 PM

This is the guy that I hate to love! He is the most entertaining to me to watch - but he is also one of my favorites.

Kansas City Kid 02-05-04 06:00 PM

If you want to pay your bills dont lose all of your money. 9 gold bracelets and he cant pay bills??

rookie 02-12-04 06:00 PM

this guy is not that great. do aces still beat kings? ok phil, whatever.

poker king 02-13-04 06:00 PM

phil is the greatest of all time behind doyle brunson. poker is an easy come easy go world. every pro goes broke at least once in a career to all You naysayers all i have to say is go to the mirage and pull yourself up a seat next to hellmuth and see who goes home broke that night. Phil is the man.

Stax McBluff 02-14-04 06:00 PM

Helmuth is a whiny loser and a bad winner. I loved it when he thought T.J Cloutier slowrolled him in the showdown at the sands. How can you respect a guy who got punched out by that dwarf Sam Grizzle.

Andy Reid/Reider/andymreid 02-19-04 06:00 PM

Everybody goes bust once in a while. It takes Phil's mind set, skill and superior attitude to rise up, and win. Again.

JonnyRINGO/RINGO/youarenothing 02-23-04 06:00 PM

I think that Phil and Ben Affleck should shaer a room

pokergirl 02-27-04 06:00 PM

phil hellmuth is my favorite! so cute when he whines.. phil is the best! reads people like none other

YouNg GuNnA 02-28-04 06:00 PM

Phil took Sam Grizzle to school at wsop03. Got out drawn by a stockbroker, thats why he is not the WSOP champ.

chris forsyth 03-01-04 06:00 PM

this is a man that may moan but show me somebody that doesn't, phil play how you like and say what you want, i hope to come up against you sometime.

GoDsUNe 03-04-04 06:00 PM

i think he has one of the best understanding of the game. it seems to me he only gets beat by crazy draw outs.

PokerDali 03-06-04 06:00 PM

A great tournament mind, yet at times he seems to make calls that are very obviously way behind, yet if he;s right, he looks brilliant,( see Aq allin call vs Grizzle's Kj w/ k hi flop no q, and AJd Call for last 25% or so of stack in vienna in lst HU championships w/ 6QQ89 or so board. Would be a better player if he's quit whining and get some Zen about him,( as would I). He also at times strangely shows NO poker intuition, as in the time he bet Lederer 10K that AKo Beat AKs heads up long term showdown... a monket knows thats' not true, mebbe just an urban legend tho.

pokerdali 03-06-04 06:00 PM

btw, pokerking, as to your statement, he's an all timer in tourneys, but in any ring game of any kind, he's fairly well known as a fish. Doyle can and does play everything well, along with many others. Tourneys, he;s right there, but not even close overall.

MACKISGOD 03-08-04 06:00 PM

good player.but why did i have to see him with his shirt off on his espn profile?i couldnt eat for two days..........ugggghhhh

VitaminG 03-10-04 06:00 PM

Hellmuth is a whiny ass....grow up.

Curious 03-17-04 06:00 PM

I think we all need to look at our wrist, our bank accounts, our bookshelves, Trny's we have won, TV appearances, World travel, then if we have done all of this judge those that walked with us not in front of us.

pokermonk 03-19-04 06:00 PM

phil is being honest when he talks of going broke and if any of you don't realize the reality of a poker players dilemma i feel for you...

brain 03-28-04 06:00 PM

overrated! No where near the best ever. Stu Ungar would wipe the floor clean with this idiot.

brain 03-28-04 06:00 PM

I mean even dead and buried Ungar would still kick his ass

007 of Spades 03-30-04 06:00 PM

This guy is a whiney Bitch and i hope i have the chance to take him for all he has

Roy Batty 04-02-04 06:00 PM

Nothing but a whiney little schoolgirl.No class,no heart.

mikerane 04-14-04 06:00 PM

phil i like your wanna be john mcenroe style the only problem is mcenroe is a great player and can back it up. you my bitchy friend need to read my book "blowme@mikerane.com" phil stay at home and play home games this way when youget your ass kicked you want have so far to drive

Mario 04-17-04 06:00 PM

Some of you guys are really big haters. Phil is an amazing player. Even though people think that they get into his head, I believe that he's the one that's actually playing with their minds. All you guys that talk trash would get killed by Hellmuth just because you would want to beat him so badly. Even if you were tough minded, you would still have to go past his skills. To the guy above, I have to disagree with you, Phil Hellmuth has a game to back up his trash talking. Even Doyle Brunson agreed that "he's pretty good". It's not luck that got him so much bracelets. I know he will win more of those.

Ross D 04-18-04 06:00 PM

F me, this guy rages more than sperry and stry on crack!

Nate71 04-26-04 06:00 PM

Phil, you're good...I just don't like you. Much respect as a poker player...none as a person. I saw him chew out a valet at Bellagio and make quite a scene cause the guy didn't pull his car forward enough...by like 2 feet. What a tool.

CHKRAZE 05-03-04 06:00 PM

I will play you soon Phil. Im comming for you and you will know when you see me that I am your greatest nightmare. Hope you're ready. See you soon.

Burt 05-05-04 06:00 PM

Great player, bigger jack***!!!!

SP. 05-10-04 06:00 PM

What a poker talent... he whines when he is beat by a terrible draw, just like any of us would... I think he is top five in the world today

andrew 05-11-04 06:00 PM

the poor bastard gets beat by poor players...unlucky...so sad

Johnny Chan's Left Nut 05-12-04 06:00 PM

I have seen Phil lose over $100,000 cash, on at least ten diferent occasions in live games. He sucks. Trust me, if you play 150 plus events a year, you are bound to win 1 or 2. Many fear him in tourneys for no reason. Even mediocre high limit cash players smile when they see him walk into the room.

Tilt 05-12-04 06:00 PM

He's nothing compared to Hon Le. Didn't even tip a friend of mine who works at Cheetahs. That's right, Phil went to Cheetahs and got a lap dance...he's human yo. But quite a jerk.

jmarlowe 05-17-04 06:00 PM

PHIL PHIL PHIL!!! I HOPE THAT SOMEHOW, SOME WAY, YOU GET THIS POST AND READ IT!!! Even better would be a magical reply to my email address! So I'm curious... What was up with the snowmen all in right after the T.J. slow roll? I know T.J. said he didn't slow roll you, but for some reason I think the old coot totally did it and lied about not doing it just to put you on tilt! AND IT WORKED! What a great lie if it was one! Not only does it put you on tilt, but it makes other opponents think "Gee, maybe the old guy is starting to lose it. I hope he keeps not seeing his hands!" Plus, he keeps the respect of everybody because they actually think he didn't slow roll it! I know slow rolling is bad etiquette, but if I had the opportunity to slap one of the best players ever with a move like that I'd do it in a second! There's many reasons to do it. To make you get out of your game, put you on tilt, make you want revenge (bad to ever want revenge in poker). Wanting revenge for a previous hand is what got you in trouble with A-3 to begin with! I know slow rolling isn't something you want to make habit of, but poker is war and in war all is fair within the rules! T.J. never broke any rules! And I'm sure he knows perfectly well that your biggest pet peeve in poker is being slow rolled! I simply can't believe a player as good as T.J. would not realize he landed a flush on the river while only seeing a double belly buster straight draw before the river card landed. I think he remembered the hand from 1 year ago he beat you on, the one you remembered like yesterday, and he played against you realizing you're will for revenge! HE'S OBVIOUSLY GOT YOUR NUMBER! But, you can get his if you forget the revenge factor and play him like you play anybody else; by reading them calmly and realizing that you can potentially lose any hand at any time. You're still one of my favorite players, but after seeing that I lost some respect for you and gained much more for old T.J. It's one thing to whine when you're still in the game, acting as you're on tilt when you aren't to fool your opponents, but you were showing your true colors and it literally got you knocked you out of the tournament! Maybe you should read "Zen and the Art of Poker" by Larry Phillips. I know he's a nobody compared to you, but he makes great points regarding controlling your emotions and mind in poker. If you have a hole in your game, it's your tilt factor! I still think you're one of the best people readers in the game, but you are easy to read when you get all fired up! So do one of two things. SHUT UP, or become a better actor. And for the love of Pete, don't whine after you get knocked out of a tourny. :-) Last but not least, please win another big event ASAP. I want to see you shut up these people who think you suck, they really have no idea what they are talking about. Despite your tilt factor, you still rule!

jmarlowe 05-17-04 06:00 PM

Didn't realize my post was so freakin huge, maybe typing 60+ wpm is a downfall. LOL... Hope ya'll love or hate me for it!

joepro/joe/joe.com 05-18-04 06:00 PM

I read all your post, jmarlowe and it was long but good. I don't recall the 2 games Hellmuth vs. TJ, but I agree a lot with your last point: Don't be a d1ckhead when you get knocked out of a tournament. I've heard people who met Phil and said he was a nice guy, and please, anyone who says he's a fish is just an idiot. I just saw the ESPN replay of Phil vs. the old man Sam Grizzle, that was a riot. Reading this board is also a trip.

Jammer 05-18-04 06:00 PM

Word has it that Phil was almost kicked out of the Commerce for lying on the floor in the fetal postion for over 2 minutes after a bad beat. Floor managers had to "have a word with him." I think he sometimes thinks he's above the law in poker rooms cause he's Phil "f-ing Helmuth." He's a child, and you know Hon Le is waiting for him at this years main event.Out!

habbib from mobil 05-21-04 06:00 PM

from the first time a sat at the poker table i knew that some day i could play like the pros. thanks to your book and doyles super systems, i havent had to wrk for money for the last 19 months, i play 40 80 limit hold em at the commerce casino. i am doing very well for my self and i am considering playing in more tourneys. thank you for wrighting your book on the game and getting me out of the gas station.

Maverick 05-22-04 06:00 PM

Phil, explain to me why you'd go 15 bets heads up with a guy when you aren't holding the nuts? When you slowplayed AA preflop, was it really that impossible for you comprehend someone calling 42o from the SB? Ya know what they say Phil...better to win a small pot than lose a HUUUUUUGE POT and and go on complete tilt afterwards. I'd love to know what's the most times you've rebought in a live game....gotta be double digits.

Mary420Jane 05-25-04 06:00 PM

Phil is a very talented player, but he is totally full of himself. He thinks he is so superior to all of his opponents. Although he is better than most poker players, he is not as spectacular as he thinks he is and he certainly makes his fair share of mistakes. It's time he came down from his high horse. Overall rating: A-


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